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Verse 2:62 – Setting the record straight on jews, christians & sabians

28 Aug

As-Salamu ‘Alaikum

One of the verses that is often quoted by the hypocrites pretending to be Muslim scholars is verse 2:62. They do it to misguide innocent Muslims into thinking that jews, christians and sabians, as we know them, are not kafirs and that they shall be saved in the hereafter. Innocent Muslims, both born and converted, who do not know Arabic or have access to Islamic literature and commentary of sahaba and scholars, and with nothing but literal translations as their closest aide, are confused by such hypocrites’ who play with Allah’s words.

Let us see what the tafsiir of this verse says. Please note, that I have used the simplest explanation on this matter which exists in the tafsiir of Imam Ibn Kathiir. The other books of tafsiir only go into greater complexities and coming down harsher on christians and jews, also incorporate a discussion on hypocrites. NONE of them have EVER interpreted the verse to state that christians, jews & sabians, as we know them, shall be saved.

When the Quran talks about “christians” and “jews” who will be saved, it is referring to the people from the nation of their own prophet’s currency.

Here is the verse:

إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ وَالَّذِينَ هَادُواْ وَالنَّصَارَى وَالصَّابِئِينَ مَنْ آمَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحاً فَلَهُمْ أَجْرُهُمْ عِندَ رَبِّهِمْ وَلاَ خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلاَ هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ

Translation of meaning: Verily, those who believe, and those who are jews (wal-ladheena haadoo), and the christians (nasaaraa), and the sabians; whoever [from amongst them] believes in Allah and the last day and does righteous deeds, their recompense is with their lord and there is no fear upon them, nor shall they grieve. [Holy Quran 2:62]

EXPLANATION OF THE VERSE FROM TAFSIIR IBN KATHIIR

لما بين [ الله ] تعالى حال من خالف أوامره وارتكب زواجره ، وتعدى في فعل ما لا إذن فيه وانتهك المحارم ، وما أحل بهم من النكال ، نبه تعالى على أن من أحسن من الأمم السالفة وأطاع ، فإن له جزاء الحسنى ، وكذلك الأمر إلى قيام الساعة ؛ كل من اتبع الرسول النبي الأمي فله السعادة الأبدية ، ولا خوف عليهم فيما يستقبلونه ، ولا هم يحزنون على ما يتركونه ويخلفونه ، كما قال تعالى : ( ألا إن أولياء الله لا خوف عليهم ولا هم يحزنون ) [ يونس : 62 ] وكما تقول الملائكة للمؤمنين عند الاحتضار في قوله : ( إن الذين قالوا ربنا الله ثم استقاموا تتنزل عليهم الملائكة ألا تخافوا ولا تحزنوا وأبشروا بالجنة التي كنتم توعدون ) فصلت : 30 

As Allah showed that those who violate his commandments and committed debauchery, and committed acts not permitted unto them, and exceeded in manifesting the prohibitions, there is no bliss permitted upon them – The Almighty mentions here regarding the pious and obedient ones of the past nations, for them, indeed there is a great reward. This command is to stay until the day of judgment. Every person who follows the Unlettered Prophet [Muhammad, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam], for him there is everlasting bliss. And there is no fear on them for whatever has past, neither is there any grief on them for whatever they leave for the future. As Allah has said :

ألا إن أولياء الله لا خوف عليهم ولا هم يحزنون

Translation of meaning: Verily, on the friends of Allah there is no fear nor shall they grieve. [Holy Quran 10:62]

and as the angels shall declare on the dying believers as He stated

إن الذين قالوا ربنا الله ثم استقاموا تتنزل عليهم الملائكة ألا تخافوا ولا تحزنوا وأبشروا بالجنة التي كنتم توعدون

Translation of meaning: Those who say, “Our Lord is Allah” and then stay steadfast, on them descend angels [saying], “Do not fear and do not worry, we are giving you the glad tidings of the paradise you were promised.” [Holy Quran 41:30]

قال ابن أبي حاتم : حدثنا أبي ، حدثنا ابن أبي عمر العدني ، حدثنا سفيان ، عن ابن أبي نجيح ، عن مجاهد ، قال : قال سلمان : سألت النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم عن أهل دين كنت معهم ، فذكرت من صلاتهم وعبادتهم ، فنزلت : ( إن الذين آمنوا والذين هادوا والنصارى والصابئين من آمن بالله واليوم الآخر ) إلى آخر الآية .

Ibn Abi Hatim said: Ubay narrated to us: Ibn Abi ‘Umar Al-Madani narrated to us: Sufyan narrated to us through Ibn Abi Najiih through Mujahid, he said: Salman [Al-Farsi] said: I asked the Prophet, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, regarding the religion of the people I used to be with and mentioned their prayers and worships, then the verse [Verily, those who believe, and those who are jews, and the christians and the sabians; whoever believes in Allah and the last day … (until the end of the verse)] was revealed.

وقال السدي : ( إن الذين آمنوا والذين هادوا والنصارى والصابئين من آمن بالله واليوم الآخر وعمل صالحا ) الآية : نزلت في أصحاب سلمان الفارسي ، بينا هو يحدث النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم إذ ذكر أصحابه ، فأخبره خبرهم ، فقال : كانوا يصومون ويصلون ويؤمنون بك ، ويشهدون أنك ستبعث نبيا ، فلما فرغ سلمان من ثنائه عليهم ، قال له نبي الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : يا سلمان ، هم من أهل النار . فاشتد ذلك على سلمان، فأنزل الله هذه الآية ، فكان إيمان اليهود : أنه من تمسك بالتوراة وسنة موسى ، عليه السلام ؛ حتى جاء عيسى . فلما جاء عيسى كان من تمسك بالتوراة وأخذ بسنة موسى ، فلم يدعها ولم يتبع عيسى ، كان هالكا . وإيمان النصارى أن من تمسك بالإنجيل منهم وشرائع عيسى كان مؤمنا مقبولا منه حتى جاء محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم ، فمن لم يتبع محمدا صلى الله عليه وسلم منهم ويدع ما كان عليه من سنة عيسىوالإنجيل – كان هالكا . 

And Suddi says: [Verily, those who believe, and those who are jews, and the christians and the sabians; whoever believes in Allah and the last day, and do righteous deeds…(2:62)] was revealed in regards to the companions of Salman Al-Farsi. He explained to us that he mentioned to the Prophet, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, regarding his companions and informed him regarding them. He said, “They fast and pray and believe in you, and testify that you shall be sent a prophet.” When Salman finished mentioning his praise of them, the Prophet, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, said to him, “O Salman, they are from the people of fire.” This worried Salman, and Allah sent this verse. However, the faith of the jews: Indeed, the one who held on to the Torah and the Sunnah of Muusa ‘alaihis salam, UNTIL ‘Eisa arrived. And when ‘Eisa came, the one who held on to the Torah and the Sunnah of Muusa, when he [‘Eisa] called him and did not follow ‘Eisa, he perished. And the faith of the christian, the one amongst them who held on to the Injiil and the laws given to ‘Eisa, he was an accepted believer from amongst them UNTIL Muhammad, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, arrived. And who ever from them does not follow Muhammad, sal Allahu, ‘alaihi wa sallam, and what ever he [Muhammad, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam] called to and if he still holds on to the Sunnah of ‘Eisa and the Injiil – he has perished.

وقال ابن أبي حاتم : وروي عن سعيد بن جبير نحو هذا . 

And Ibn Abi Hatim said that Sa’eed bin Jubayr narrated the same.

قلت : وهذا لا ينافي ما روى علي بن أبي طلحة ، عن ابن عباس : ( إن الذين آمنوا والذين هادوا والنصارى والصابئين من آمن بالله واليوم الآخر) الآية فأنزل الله بعد ذلك : ( ومن يبتغ غير الإسلام دينا فلن يقبل منه وهو في الآخرة من الخاسرين – آل عمران : 85 

I said: And this is not contrary to as is narrated by ‘Ali ibn Abi Talha through Ibn ‘Abbas that verse 

إن الذين آمنوا والذين هادوا والنصارى والصابئين من آمن بالله واليوم الآخر

Translation of meaning: Verily, those who believe, and those who are jews, and the christians, and the sabians; whoever believes in Allah and the last day… [Holy Quran 2:62] 

is followed by the verse

ومن يبتغ غير الإسلام دينا فلن يقبل منه وهو في الآخرة من الخاسرين

Translation of meaning: Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it shall never be accepted of him and in the hereafter, he shall be from the loosers. [Holy Quran 3:85]

فإن هذا الذي قاله [ ابن عباس ] إخبار عن أنه لا يقبل من أحد طريقة ولا عملا إلا ما كان موافقا لشريعة محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم بعد أن بعثه [ الله ] بما بعثه به ، فأما قبل ذلك فكل من اتبع الرسول في زمانه فهو على هدى وسبيل ونجاة ، فاليهود أتباع موسى ، عليه السلام ، الذين كانوا يتحاكمون إلى التوراة في زمانهم . 

This is what he [Ibn ‘Abbas] said, that NO PATH or DEED will be accepted of ANYONE, UNLESS it conforms to the laws of Muhammad, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, in regards to EVERYTHING that he has been sent with by Allah. And before this, who ever followed his current prophet in his time, he was on guidance and on the path to salvation. And the jews were the ones who followed Muusa, ‘alaihis salam, and they retorted to the Torah for their judgments.

واليهود من الهوادة وهي المودة أو التهود وهي التوبة ؛ كقول موسى ، عليه السلام : ( إنا هدنا إليك ) [ الأعراف : 156 ] أي : تبنا ، فكأنهم سموا بذلك في الأصل لتوبتهم ومودتهم في بعضهم لبعض . 

And ‘yahood’ comes from ‘hawadah’, and that is affection and friendship, or ‘tahood’ which is repentance; as Muusa, ‘alaihis salam said: 

إنا هدنا إليك

Translation of meaning: “We repent towards you [O Allah]” [Holy Quran 7:156]; 

thus, they are called such because of their repentance [i.e., of their forefathers, not the current jews] and friendships amongst themselves.

[ وقيل : لنسبتهم إلى يهوذا أكبر أولاد يعقوب عليه السلام ، وقال أبو عمرو بن العلاء : لأنهم يتهودون ، أي : يتحركون عند قراءة التوراة ] . 

And it is said: It is due to their affiliation to Yahuudha, the elder son of Ya’quub, ‘alaihis salam. And Abu ‘Amru bin Al-’Alaa said: It [their name] is because that they used to gather together at times of reciting the Torah (‘yattahidoon’ in Arabic, which refers to ‘being together’).

فلما بعث عيسى صلى الله عليه وسلم وجب على بني إسرائيل اتباعه والانقياد له ، فأصحابه وأهل دينه هم النصارى ، وسموا بذلك لتناصرهم فيما بينهم ، وقد يقال لهم : أنصار أيضا ، كما قال عيسى ، عليه السلام : ( من أنصاري إلى الله قال الحواريون نحن أنصار الله ) [ آل عمران : 52 ] وقيل : إنهم إنما سموا بذلك من أجل أنهم نزلوا أرضا يقال لها ناصرة ، قاله قتادة وابن جريج ، وروي عن ابن عباس أيضا ، والله أعلم . 

And when ‘Eisa, alaihis salam, was sent, it became incumbent upon the Children of Israel to follow him and ascertain his prophethood; and his [‘Eisa, ‘alaihis salam’s] companions and followers of his laws are the nasaaraa (christians). And they are called such because of their helping each other; and they have also been called “Ansaar” as ‘Eisa ‘alaihis salam said

من أنصاري إلى الله قال الحواريون نحن أنصار الله

Translation of meaning: “Who will be my helpers towards [the cause of] Allah?”; the hawariyyoon (disciples) said, “We are the helpers [in the religion] of Allah” [Holy Quran 3:52]

And they also say: They are named such because the land where these people arrived in was called Naasarah [hence, the name ‘nasaaraa’]; as is stated by Qatada and Ibn Jurayh and also narrated by Ibn ‘Abbas. Allah knows best [regarding their etymology].

والنصارى : جمع نصران كنشاوى جمع نشوان ، وسكارى جمع سكران ، ويقال للمرأة : نصرانة ، قال الشاعر : نصرانة لم تحنف

And “nasaaraa” is the plural of “nasraan” as “kanshaawaa” is the plural of “nashwaan”, and “sukaaraa” is the plural of “sukraan” and the woman is called “nasraanah”. The poet says: the nasraanah won’t give up [on her errant ways]

فلما بعث الله محمدا صلى الله عليه وسلم خاتما للنبيين ، ورسولا إلى بني آدم على الإطلاق ، وجب عليهم تصديقه فيما أخبر ، وطاعته فيما أمر ، والانكفاف عما عنه زجر . وهؤلاء هم المؤمنون [ حقا ] . وسميت أمة محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم مؤمنين لكثرة إيمانهم وشدة إيقانهم ، ولأنهم يؤمنون بجميع الأنبياء الماضية والغيوب الآتية . وأما الصابئون فقد اختلف فيهم ؛ فقال سفيان الثوري ، عن ليث بن أبي سليم ، عن مجاهد ، قال : الصابئون قوم بين المجوس واليهود والنصارى ، ليس لهم دين وكذا رواه ابن أبي نجيح ، عنه وروي عن عطاءوسعيد بن جبير نحو ذلك 

And when Allah sent Muhammad, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, the last of prophets, and the messenger to all of mankind most definitely, it became incumbent upon them to affirm what ever he informed, and to follow what ever he commanded, and abstain from what ever he stopped from. And they are indeed the true believers. And the nation of Muhammad, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, is named “Mumineen” (believers) because of their excessive belief and staunch certitude, AND because they believe in ALL the prophets of the past and on the unseen matters  of the future [that are prophesised by our Master Rasulullah]. As for the sabians, there are disagreements in regards to them; Sufyan Ath-Thawri has said on account of Layth bin Abi Sulaym on account of Mujahid: The sabians are a people between the magians and the jews and christians, they do not have a religion. And Ibn Abi Nujayh has also narrated such, and ‘Ataa and Saeed bin Jubayr narrated the same through him.

وقال أبو العالية والربيع بن أنس ، والسدي ، وأبو الشعثاء جابر بن زيد ، والضحاك [ وإسحاق بن راهويه ] الصابئون فرقة من أهل الكتاب يقرؤون الزبور . 

And Abu ‘Aaliyah and Rabii’ bin Anas, and Suddi and Abu Sha’thaa Jabir bin Zayd, and Adz-Dzahhak  [and Ishaaq bin Rahwayh] said that the sabians are a sect within the people of the book and they recite the Psalms.

[ ولهذا قال أبو حنيفة وإسحاق : لا بأس بذبائحهم ومناكحتهم ]

And due to this, Abu Hanifah and Ishaaq said, “There is no problem with their slaughter [to be consumed] and marriages [to Muslim men (and this ONLY applies to those sabians who actually are a sect of christians/jews, IF at all any such people exist)].”

وقال هشيم عن مطرف : كنا عند الحكم بن عتيبة فحدثه رجل من أهل البصرة عن الحسن أنه كان يقول في الصابئين : إنهم كالمجوس ، فقالالحكم : ألم أخبركم بذلك . 

And Hushaym said on account of Mitraf: We were with Hakam bin ‘Utaibah, and a man from the people of Basrah arrived and he was saying on account of Hasan regarding the sabians, “They are like the magians”. The Hakam said: Didn’t I [also] inform you this?

وقال عبد الرحمن بن مهدي ، عن معاوية بن عبد الكريم : سمعت الحسن ذكر الصابئين ، فقال : هم قوم يعبدون الملائكة 

And ‘Abd Ar-Rahman bin Mahdi said on account of Mu’awiyah bin ‘Abd Al-Karim: I heard Hasan mention the sabians and he said, “They are a people who worship angels”.

[ وقال ابن جرير : حدثنا محمد بن عبد الأعلى ، حدثنا المعتمر بن سليمان عن أبيه ، عن الحسن قال : أخبر زياد أن الصابئين يصلون إلى القبلة ويصلون الخمس . قال : فأراد أن يضع عنهم الجزية . قال : فخبر بعد أنهم يعبدون الملائكة ] . 

And Ibn Jarir said: Muhammad bin ‘Abd Al-‘A’ala narrated to us: Mu’atamar bin Sulayman narrated to us on account of his father, who narrated on account of Hasan: Ziyad heard about the sabians that they pray in the direction of the Qiblah and pray 5 times. He said “I wanted to lift the jizyah off of them”. He said, “Then later it was informed they worship the angels [so I did not lift the jizyah]”.

وقال أبو جعفر الرازي : بلغني أن الصابئين قوم يعبدون الملائكة ، ويقرؤون الزبور ، ويصلون إلى القبلة . 

And Abu Ja’afar Ar-razi said: It has reached me regarding the sabians that they are a people who worship the angels, and recite the Psalms, and pray in the direction of the Qiblah. 

وكذا قال سعيد بن أبي عروبة ، عن قتادة . 

And such was also said by Sa’eed bin Abi ‘Aroobah on account of Qatada.

وقال ابن أبي حاتم : حدثنا يونس بن عبد الأعلى ، أخبرنا ابن وهب ، أخبرني ابن أبي الزناد ، عن أبيه ، قال : الصابئون قوم مما يلي العراق ، وهم بكوثى ، وهم يؤمنون بالنبيين كلهم ، ويصومون من كل سنة ثلاثين يوما ويصلون إلى اليمن كل يوم خمس صلوات . 

And Ibn Abi Hatim said: Yunus bin ‘Abd Al-A’ala narrated to us that: Ibn Wahb informed us that: Ibn Abi Zannad informed me, on account of his father, he said: The sabians are a people who reside in Iraq, and they are in Koothaa, and they believe in all the prophets, and fast every year for 30 days, and pray 5 times a day facing Yemen.

وسئل وهب بن منبه عن الصابئين ، فقال : الذي يعرف الله وحده ، وليست له شريعة يعمل بها ولم يحدث كفرا . 

And Wahb bin Munabbih was asked regarding the sabians, and he said: They know Allah as one, but they don’t have any Shari’ah [from those given to earlier prophets] that they can act on neither was there disbelief on them. (That is to say, they can be considered to be at par to the jews and christians at best, UNTIL Prophet Muhammad, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, arrived, after whose arrival, it is incumbent to accept him as Allah’s Last Messenger, and accept the Shari’ah he brought with him, as is mentioned in the rest of this passage.)

وقال عبد الله بن وهب : قال عبد الرحمن بن زيد : الصابئون أهل دين من الأديان ، كانوا بجزيرة الموصل يقولون : لا إله إلا الله ، وليس لهم عمل ولا كتاب ولا نبي إلا قول : لا إله إلا الله ، قال : ولم يؤمنوا برسول ، فمن أجل ذلك كان المشركون يقولون للنبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وأصحابه : هؤلاء الصابئون ، يشبهونهم بهم ، يعني في قول : لا إله إلا الله . 

And ‘Abd-Allah bin Wahb said: ‘Abd Ar-rahman bin Zayd said: The sabians are a religion from the many religions. They used to be on the island of Mosul and say “Laa ilaaha ill-Allah” but did not believe in any actions [that is, religious rituals] or a [heavenly] book or a prophet; [nothing] other than saying, “Laa ilaaha ill-Allah”. He said: They do not believe in the Prophet. And for similar reasons, the idol worshipers used to say [pejoratively] in regards to the Prophet, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, and his companions, “They are sabians, they resemble them”, meaning, in their saying “Laa ilaaha ill-Allah”

وقال الخليل هم قوم يشبه دينهم دين النصارى ، إلا أن قبلتهم نحو مهب الجنوب ، يزعمون أنهم على دين نوح ، عليه السلام . وحكى القرطبي عن مجاهد والحسن وابن أبي نجيح : أنهم قوم تركب دينهم بين اليهود والمجوس ، ولا تؤكل ذبائحهم ، قال ابن عباس : ولا تنكح نساؤهم . قال القرطبي : والذي تحصل من مذهبهم فيما ذكره بعض العلماء أنهم موحدون ويعتقدون تأثير النجوم ، وأنها فاعلة ؛ ولهذا أفتى أبو سعيد الإصطخري بكفرهم للقادر بالله حين سأله عنهم ، واختار فخر الدين الرازي أن الصابئين قوم يعبدون الكواكب ؛ بمعنى أن الله جعلها قبلة للعبادة والدعاء ، أو بمعنى أن الله فوض تدبير أمر هذا العالم إليها ، قال : وهذا القول هو المنسوب إلى الكشرانيين الذين جاءهم إبراهيم الخليل ، عليه السلام ، رادا عليهم ومبطلا لقولهم . 

And Al-Khaliil said: They are a people who resemble the christians in their religion except that they take their qiblah towards the south. They allege that they are upon the religion of Nuuh, ‘alaihis salam. And Qurtubi narrates on account of Mujahid and Hasan and Ibn Abi Nujayh: They were a people on a mixed religion between judaism and magianism, and do not eat their slaughter. Ibn ‘Abbaas said: Do not marry their women. Qurtubi said: As has been understood in regards to their religion from the scholars, they were monotheists but believed in the effects of stars. And because of this Abu Sa’eed Al-Astakhri passed a fatwa declaring them kafirs in Allah and His Power when he was asked regarding them.  And Fakhr Ad-Deen Ar-Razi held the opinion that they worshipped planets, in the sense that Allah meant for them [planets] to be qiblah for prayers and supplications OR in the sense that Allah delegated the execution of the affairs of the universe to them [stars and planets]. And there is the saying that they are of the Kashraaniyyeen, the people to whom the Khaliil of Allah, Prophet Ibrahiim, ‘alaihis salam, was sent, whome he refuted and negated their sayings.

وأظهر الأقوال ، والله أعلم ، قول مجاهد ومتابعيه ، ووهب بن منبه : أنهم قوم ليسوا على دين اليهود ولا النصارى ولا المجوس ولا المشركين ، وإنما هم قوم باقون على فطرتهم ولا دين مقرر لهم يتبعونه ويقتفونه ؛ ولهذا كان المشركون ينبزون من أسلم بالصابئي ، أي : أنه قد خرج عن سائر أديان أهل الأرض إذ ذاك . 

Allah knows the situation best, but the most clear saying seems to be that of Mujahid and his students, and of Wahb bin Munabbih that: They are a people not upon the religion of the jews, nor the christians, nor the magians, nor the idolators. They are a people upon their innate state and do not subscribe, follow or adhere to any religion. And because of this same reason the idolators used to call “sabian” to any one who became Muslim, as, [in their minds], he [i.e., the Muslim] had left all the religions known to them.

وقال بعض العلماء : الصابئون الذين لم تبلغهم دعوة نبي ، والله أعلم .

And some scholars have said that: The sabians are a people who have not received the da’wah of any prophet. And Allah knows best.

(Underlining by me)

By now it must be CRYSTAL CLEAR to any person that the “jews”, “christians” and possibly those “sabians” who are a sect of judaism/christianity – who will be saved on the day of judgment – are those people who believed in their CURRENT prophet and accepted their CURRENT books – WHILE the next prophet had NOT arrived. 

With the arrival of the next prophet and possibly book (not all prophets bring books with them), their adherence of the previous book is redundant AND they are kafirs – disbelievers in Allah – if they do not accept the next prophet as Allah’s prophet.

Those who did not accept Jesus (‘Eisa) as the next prophet after Moses, ‘ala nabiyyina wa ‘alaihimus salam, became kafirs.

Likewise, ALL those who have heard of Prophet Muhammad, sal Allah ‘alaihi wa sallam, and did not accept him as Allah’s Messenger and the Quran as their law – THEY ARE ALL KAFIRS – and they shall NOT be saved from EVERLASTING INFERNO in the hereafter – UNLESS they become Muslims and accept Prophet Muhammad, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, and EVERYTHING that he brought with him.

jews and christians in our times – as we know them – are promised nothing but everlasting inferno in the Quran, and Allah’s promise shall be executed.

May Allah curse and disgrace the hypocrites who play with his religion and try to misinform and mislead Muslims by saying that christians and jews (and others outside of Islam) are not kuffaar or that they shall not suffer everlastingly in hellfire. 

Was-Salam.

 

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13 responses to “Verse 2:62 – Setting the record straight on jews, christians & sabians

  1. Mike

    November 25, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Everyone Is Going to Heaven

     
    • 'Abd-Allah al-Mujaddidi al-Naqshbandi

      November 29, 2012 at 11:19 pm

      We Muslims who worship Allah, do not have time for the puerile fantasies of dumb human-worshiping infidels like you.

      تِلْكَ أَمَانِيُّهُمْ ۗ قُلْ هَاتُوا بُرْهَانَكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ

      Translation of meaning: …these are their fantasies; say [O Beloved Prophet]: “Bring your proof if you are truthful.” [HolY Quran 2:111]

       
      • Mike

        November 29, 2012 at 11:29 pm

        How can the Quran be true if it contradicts the Bible?

         
      • 'Abd-Allah al-Mujaddidi al-Naqshbandi

        November 29, 2012 at 11:56 pm

        The Quran does not contradict the TRUE Injiil revealed to the Islamic Prophet Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, neither does it contradict the TRUE Torah revealed to Allah’s Prophet Moses, peace be upon him.

        The so-called Injiil and the Torah that you jews and christians possess today are corrupted and full of lies.

        Every Prophet of Allah called people to worship Allah ALONE, and not to associate any partners to Him.

        The religion of every prophet of Allah was Islam – which is to surrender unconditionally to the Will and Command of Allah.

        They also called on their people to follow and accept the next prophet to arrive, and also to accept and follow the last and final prophet of Allah, my master Muhammad, peace be upon him.

        The jews became filthy infidels by rejecting the Messiah Jesus, peace be upon him, as Allah’s messenger.

        The christians became filthy pagans and infidels by attributing lies to Allah, likening Him to His creation, by worshiping the human prophet and slave of Allah, Jesus, and by worshiping Jesus’ mother. (How stupid are you people to use the phrase “mother of god”! May Allah damn you for such ugly blasphemies against Him.)

        Read the post above. It explains this well.

        Accepting Allah’s beloved Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, as the last and final prophet of Allah and following what he taught, is de facto acceptance of ALL previous prophets of Allah, and rejection of all forms of blasphemies, pagan-hood, and idolatry that you christians and jews are involved in.

         
      • Mike

        November 30, 2012 at 12:19 am

        Jesus Christ is the last and final prophet of the one true God.

        You are afraid of the truth. Otherwise, you would not have stripped my links and obscured my identity.

        (By the way, I agree with you that the phrase “mother of god” is entirely inappropriate.)

         
      • 'Abd-Allah al-Mujaddidi al-Naqshbandi

        November 30, 2012 at 6:04 am

        As the Quran says – Bring your proof if you are truthful.

        The truth is independent of the identity of the one speaking it. Your identity and links are stripped because you are pure evil – a satanic anti-Christ from the doors of hell. Your childish guilt trips don’t work with me.

        If you can’t bring an intelligent proof comprehensible to a rational mind, then don’t bother wasting this web-space again with your opinions and fantasies.

        PS. The phrase “mother of god” is not just “inappropriate” – but rather it’s the ugliest and dumbest lie, an abomination, and an evil evil blasphemy.

         
      • Mike

        November 30, 2012 at 12:27 pm

        I brought you truth and you don’t recognize it.

        You are unwilling to engage on a level playing field. You are aware of the weaknesses of your arguments and so you must seek an advantage over your interlocutors lest they expose these weaknesses and embarrass you.

        Moreover, you show no kindness to your enemies. For this reason, you cannot be speaking for God.

        I do not blame you for rejecting today’s church. It is a man-made organization. Jesus Christ, however, is true. And His church in the New Testament has told us the truth about Him.

        The Scriptures tell the truth about Christ. Anyone or anything that contradicts them cannot be true.

         
      • 'Abd-Allah al-Mujaddidi al-Naqshbandi

        November 30, 2012 at 1:21 pm

        You brought opinions and fantasies with no evidence.

        Truth has evidence behind it to back it up.

        I have been more than kind to let your comments here fly AND engage with you – in the hope that you may perchance bring something other than opinions and fantasies – so your accusation of unwillingness to engage on a level playing field just shows how dishonest and deceitful you are!

        I say proudly that I show no kindness to my enemies. The Quran commands me to treat my enemies harshly but not unjustly. Don’t expect me to turn cheeks.

        Also note that you people are hypocrites. You talk about kindness and yet you support ruthless babykillers!

        You will find a lot of sites on the net where you will find so-called Muslims who are really christians and would love to more than just turn the other cheek towards devils like you. This is NOT one of those sites.

        Perhaps any starting point of any meaningful dialog between us would be your comment – ‘Jesus Christ is true’.

        Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, is indeed a true prophet of Allah. However, it is our beliefs regarding him that make us believers in his truth or filthy infidels.

        Jesus Christ NEVER asked people to worship himself or his mother.

        Jesus Christ called people to worship Allah ALONE, and did not associate partners with Him.

        Jesus Christ was NOT an anthropomorphist who believed that Allah resembles humans or anything He created or that He is in the realms of time and space.

        Jesus Christ and the revelation he got, the Injiil, gave the glad tidings of the last messenger of Allah to arrive, Prophet Muhammad, sal Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam.

        Scriptures in their TRUE form are indeed truthful and conveyed all of the above (as explained in bold). Corrupted and tampered with Torah and Injiil are not truthful.

        Your comments on this blog are no longer welcome unless you can bring an intelligent argument with as much as a hint of evidence.

         
      • Mike

        November 30, 2012 at 1:59 pm

        My evidence is the documents called the New Testament which were written by first-century Jews, together with the Torah and Prophets that preceded them. All these documents are reliable testimony from reliable people.

         
      • 'Abd-Allah al-Mujaddidi al-Naqshbandi

        December 4, 2012 at 10:18 pm

        The current torah and the new testament are indeed tampered with by evil men, and are NOT the revealed word of Allah as revealed unto His Prophets.

        I find it amusing that you say that the first century jews wrote the new testament, and that it is reliable testimony, and YET – the world’s entire jewish population rejects it!

        As for you mentally challenged people full of disbelief by idiotic contradictions – the christians – your so called “beliefs” aren’t worth the paper they are written on –

        https://iloveimamrabbani.wordpress.com/2010/12/06/christians-are-senseless-retards/

        (the jews are also the same like you people, they’re only marginally different than you people in their creed of disbelief in Allah)

         
  2. M.Mahmud

    February 8, 2016 at 11:36 am

    The current Torah may or may not be a corrupted book [snipped, please see my comment below]

    May Allah inspire us with fear/humility and love/hope until we meet Him.

     
    • 'Abd-Allah al-Mujaddidi al-Naqshbandi

      March 17, 2016 at 5:00 pm

      The Islamic position is that the Torah and Injiil, AS REVEALED, are indeed TRUE revelations from Allah, but have been tampered with by the priests and rabbis of the children of Israel. Allah has promised that The Quran shall not be tampered with, EVER.

      Another point to take from all this – the QURAN is ONLY that which is in Arabic.

      Any translation in any language is NOT the Quran, but only a translation of the meanings of the verses. Arabs themselves, and here I’m refering to Arab scholars of yore, needed to have the Quran’s meanings explained to them IN ARABIC itself. The corpus of literature on the Quranic sciences IN THE ARABIC language is a testament to this.

      Only an ignoramus will consider a translation as the Quran itself.

      Worse still, is the effort of kafirs like nasr and caner dagli in the cause of satan, otherwise known as ‘the study quran’. These satanists have produced a satanic work on high quality paper, and have carefully ensured they do not include the Arabic verses of the Quran, nor the passages from the classical books of Quranic sciences (in Arabic) that they have so shamelessly mistranslated to suit their fancies and pass it off as commentary.

       
      • M.Mahmud

        March 18, 2016 at 8:18 am

        “Oh but it’s a really scholarly work! Please open your mind!!!”

        (Sarcasm)

        Recently Christians came out with this deceitful [snipped] book which argues that DAESH is following the Sunnah(I’m putting it mildly.)

        The way they smile and slander Allah and His Messenger sickens me. And on Amazon, in the Islam bestsellers we have Daglis blasphemous filth getting promoted by “scholars” and munshids saying kaffir Christians(redundant I know) can go to Jannah AND this filthy [snipped] book arguing that Islam is DAESH and inventing lies on Allah and slandering Rasulullah sallahualayhiwasalam.

        SubhanAllah. May Allah aid us and humiliate and annihalate the liars. May he split them up in this life and grant them hardship and tightening in the chest and frustration and sorrow everywhere they turn.

         

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